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The Two Americas by Parasky The Two Americas by Parasky
23 April 2010: Updated with my new map style, looks much better. Check out the links if you haven't seen the whole project or want more info.

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THE TWO AMERICAS ALTERNATE HISTORY PROJECT:

Part I: [link]
Part II: [link]
Part III: [link]
America Map: You Are Here!

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Map of North America, circa 1950. Pretty self explanatory. If by chance you have no idea what this is about, then welcome to alternate history! Basically this project explores what the world may have been like if the Confederate States of America had managed to win in the American Civil War. I use real research to do a lot of it, but in the later parts I'm forced to take some artistic creativity in what happens, as by that time things have changed so much there is no way to determine what is likely and what isn't. It's a bit of a long read, and you may not understand it all, but if you like history and/or a good story, then go ahead and take a look. At the very least you can appreciate the maps and how much I improved over the course of the project.

EDIT: If you're wondering what the states are, I'll list them below. And yes, both Alabama and Alberta are abbreviated "AL." That's okay because they're in two separate countries.

EDIT-EDIT: If you're wondering, the capital of the USA is Philadelphia and the capital of the CSA is Havana.

UNITED STATES (52):
Alberta, AL
Apsalook, AP
Arizona, AZ
Bahamas, BA
British Columbia, BC
California, CA
Cheyenne, CH
Colorado, CO
Connecticut, CT
Dakota, DA
Delaware, DE
Deseret, DS
Franklin, FR
Idaho, ID
Illinois, IL
Indiana, IN
Iowa, IA
Jamaica, JA
Kansas, KS
Maine, ME
Manitoba, MN
Maryland, MD
Massachusetts, MA
Michigan, MT
Minnesota, MN
Missouri, MO
Montagnais, MG
Nebraska, NE
Nevada, NV
New Brunswick, NB
New Hampshire, NH
New Jersey, NJ
New Mexico, NM
New Russia, NR
New York, NY
Niagara, NI
Northwest, NW (Pronounced "Nor-west," not "North-West," a bit like Newfoundland)
Nova Scotia, NS
Nunavut, NU
Ohio, OH
Ontario, ON
Oregon, OR
Pennsylvania, PA
Philippines, PH
Quebec, QC
Rhode Island, RI
Rupert’s Land, RL
Saskatchewan, SK
Vermont, VT
Virgin Islands, VI
Wisconsin, WI
Yukon, YK

CONFEDERATE STATES (25):
Alabama, AL
Arkansas, AR
Baja, BJ
Chiapas, CP
Chihuahua, CU
Coahuila, CU
Columbia, CL
Cuba, CB
Durango, DU
Florida, FL
Georgia, GA
Hispaniola, HI
Kentucky, KY
Louisiana, LA
Mississippi, MS
New Texas, NT
North Carolina, NC
Sequoyah, SQ
Sinaloa, SI
Sonora, SO
South Carolina, SC
Tennessee, TN
Texas, TX
Virginia, VA
Yucatan, YU
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:iconh8torade:
H8torade Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2015  New member
The South will rise again!
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soulessone12 Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2014
No not my home country why did the confederates had to take it over :(
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Parasky Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Because they're assholes :O
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2013  Student Digital Artist
If you ever plan on remaking this map, remember that the Chihuahua-Durango border was a straight line in the 1800s, not like it is today.
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ScotchNvl Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
According to this I live in Franklin now. Ooh oh wait Arizona's a part of the United States? Woo I don't need to travel out of the country to see my girlfriend!
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Does she live in the northern Arizona, because if she lives in southern Arizona then shes out of the country?
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ScotchNvl Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
She lives in Scottsdale, the very north-east corner of the Phoenix Metro area. I'm guessing by your map if I'm reading it right that it might be in the Confederate States.
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2013  Student Digital Artist
He she would deffinetly be living in the Confederate state of Arizona, which in this timeline never made it past being the Confederate territory of Arizona, which was ceded to Sonora and Chihuahua after they were annexed.
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I love this map, but there are some things I dont understand. Isnt the OTL CSA Arizona Territory about twice as thick as yours? How did the USA gain the Philipines when the CSA gained Cuba and Puerto Rico? How did the USA gain Jamaica, the Bahamas, and the Virgin Islands, at the same time as they invaded Canada, or by purchasing them? Arent some of your CSA southern Mexican states a lil big compared to most of the other CSA states, or did you do it with Texas' size in mind?
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Parasky Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
A lot of those questions are answered in the associated pieces linked in the description. I dunno about Arizona, but the US gained control of the Philippines after the Confederate-Spanish War made it too economically difficult to keep them. Likewise the CSA gained Cuba and Puerto Rico during the same war. I don't remember whether the US gained the islands during the war in which they took Canada, but I'm thinking they probably purchased them some time after the war since taking Canada would be a difficult enough task on its own. As for the former-Mexican states, they're that way because that's pretty much how the Confederate congress decided they would be. Mexico was too big to be its own state, and it's existing division were too small and confusing. You should read through all the parts if you have some time. It may not be the most plausible timeline (more plausible than many, IMO), but it's the one history I'm most proud of.
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I actual read through the whole thing last year and well....dont feel like doin it again yet. Although I remember enjoying it. Arizona did stretch a lil farther north but oh well, still a good concept. If I were dividing Mexico into CSA states, Id have the whole thing turned into a single territory and redraw state borders with sizes more equal to Virginia and Georgia, but thats just me :) .
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Confederate803 Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012
I love what you have done with the Confederate Flag!!! It really sets it up as a very stark contrast from the Union flag, well done.
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Parasky Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks! I really like how it came out. I have to admit, it was somewhat inspired by the flag of the Allied States of America from Jericho.
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SteamHead1880 Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Kentucky boy here, and I love this map!
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Caturday2 Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Why is the CSA's capital Havana rather than a city in Dixie?
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Parasky Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
After Richmond and Washington were destroyed in the Second American War the Confederate government held a sort of contest to promote the integration of the Mexican and Spanish territories into the Confederacy. The first of the territories to become a state would have one of its cities made the new capital of the CSA. Originally it appeared that Mexico City would be the one, but it was decided that Mexico would be way too big and have too much power in the Confederacy if it wasn't broken up. Cuba applied next, and because of its strategic military and economic value it was rapidly approved. Next thing you know, Havana is full of businessmen and Southern gentlemen and before you know it a whole new "Dixie Quarter" is being built to accommodate the Confederate government.
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Caturday2 Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Huh, I would have preferred New Orleans in that case. It's still in the confederacy proper and is a melting pot of cultures. Thanks for the explanation, anyways. :)
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DanDan26 Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
You shold include Levittown,Pennsylvaina in the next one. It's near philadepia so you should make it the place where theres a presidental bunker
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DanDan26 Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
YEY Philadelphia is the capital of america! Go Pa! Go Pa! Go Pennsylvainia!
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BlessBless Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2011
...I actually mentally cried when I saw this and Canada wasn't a country. ;-;
But its alright 'cuz you did this really well!
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Parasky Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Canada lives on... In its rightful place as part of the US. :P
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BlessBless Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2011
As long as there is Canadian spirit there is CANADA! 8D
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AmongTheSatanic Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2010  Hobbyist Artist
So, will this epic time-line ever end ? You working on something glorious to unleash upon us :blushes: ?
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Parasky Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It did end, I finished the project. Part III was pretty much it. But I guess I could expand on it a bit, it is my favorite AH I've done.
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AmongTheSatanic Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2010  Hobbyist Artist
Oh, that'd be lovely sir :blushes:

You don't have too though, it is your decision.

Machiavelli of AltTime speaking down to me, a mere MS Paint worker of maps o.O
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Parasky Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Actually I have been wanting to work on it more, I feel like I left the people who liked it (and myself) with a bit of a cliffhanger.
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AmongTheSatanic Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2010  Hobbyist Artist
Sort of. It kind of cuts off with the Communists poised to strike, Italy big and scary, and possible re-unification of the two American states.
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Irishman318 Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2010
I'm asking myself a few questions:
Would The USA and CSA have forgave each other and become allies or at least trade?
Would communism have spread into the CSA or not?
Would the USA keep waging war with he CSA to regain the most of north america?
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Parasky Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well the rest of the project actually answers those questions, but I'll go ahead and give you the short version.

The USA and CSA generally left each other alone, but a few incidents led them to fight each other a few times. Neither made any headway into the other's territory during any war (since they both fortified their borders, expecting the other to invade), but during the course of the wars France and Britain lost a lot of territory to the CSA/USA. Eventually though they do come to an understanding and form a treaty of cooperation and non-aggression. Conquest of the CSA by the USA is not possible, as Great Britain has sworn to protect it's Confederate allies. And visa versa, except the USA is supported by France.

Communism is a big no-no in the CSA. They were already not too keen about it, but the fact that slaves embraced it and former slaves in their West African territories actually revolted and formed their own Communist nation was what really made them hate it. They still execute people for spreading Communist "propaganda" (anything that contains the word "communist" and isn't about how it's evil) there, and the Confederate Communist Party is banned. The USA, on the other had, is a little more liberal than our USA and is fairly socialist. But they've been growing more conservative as the population moves from the over-crowded cities to the vast open plains of former Canada.
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Irishman318 Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2010
But what about the axis and the nazis? surely they all must have banded together to fight him and the japanese
and also the growing terrorism today, even though they might not have tolerated it, it still must have snuck into their cities like today in real life
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Parasky Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
There was no Axis or Nazis. There wasn't even a Germany until 1996.
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Irishman318 Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2010
So what, it remained like prussia or austria or some stuff like that?
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Parasky Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
More or less. Prussia and Austria both tried a couple times to unite all the German people, but they failed. In late 1996/early 1997 relations between the German states were so integrated that they decided to form a federal government and unite into the United German States (a big factor in the decision was the growing power of the hostile Italian Empire and an increasingly interventionist France).
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Irishman318 Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2010
So they are the united states of germany, or the USG (lol)
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Parasky Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Actually they're the UGS, but everyone just calls it Germany.
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DarkSlayer777 Featured By Owner Sep 10, 2010  Student General Artist
Hmmm this reminds me of a Schism in a way It's interesting to find out what a alternative future would be like... Great work!
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ScotchNvl Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2010  Hobbyist Writer
Huh, so the Confederates took over Cuba and Mexico, and the Union took over Canada. Imperialist as always. lol

Really good map, I always enjoy these alternate realities. Great way to get away from the constant normalcy.
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Parasky Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Wow, thanks. I've always thought the USA could have been bigger, but I'm planning to do one with a bigger Canada pretty soon.
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pyrodafox Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2010
Just a minor criticism concerning British Columbia and Alberta, I don't think they would be admitted into the United States under those names. Particularly Alberta because the name comes from one of Queen Victoria's daughters.

That aside, I love this map.
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Parasky Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Why would that matter? We didn't change the name of New Mexico when we admitted it, or California, or Texas. Why would it be any different if we had conquered Canada?
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Doctor-Orgasmo Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2010   Writer
Now, I have a question. Have you considered thinking up capitals for all these states?
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Parasky Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Guess what I found? I guess I did think up capitals already: [link]
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:icondoctor-orgasmo:
Doctor-Orgasmo Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2010   Writer
Well, well, well, look at that. But then again, don't you think that Merida would be a better state capital for Yucatan than Cancun?
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Parasky Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
But Cancun is so much nicer. I'm taking into account that the country wouldn't be ruled by Mexicans anymore, it was heavily colonized by the Confederates. They're going to move to nice places first, like Cancun.
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Doctor-Orgasmo Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2010   Writer
But the thing is, Cancun wasn't founded until 1970 in our timeline. Unless Cancun is a planned state capital in this timeline, Merida is a better choice if you ask me. [link]
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Parasky Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Not really, it didn't seem necessary. I imagine they would be roughly the same though, except maybe for the former-Mexican states. I can tell you that the capital of New Texas is Mexico City and the capital of Cuba is Guantanamo though.
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Doctor-Orgasmo Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2010   Writer
Well, I just thought that it would put some more life into this universe of yours. May I think of some for you?
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Parasky Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Sure.
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Doctor-Orgasmo Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2010   Writer
I can only think of some for Western Canada and Alaska for now, but I'm sure you can still think of some for the other states.

Alberta-Edmonton (Same as OTL)
British Columbia-Victoria (Might need to be given a different name) (Same as OTL)
Manitoba-Winnipeg (Same as OTL)
New Russia-Unalaska (Also known as Dutch Harbour)
Nunavut-Frobisher Bay (Iqaluit in OTL)
Northwest-Yellowknife
Rupert's Land(Might need to be renamed to Athabasca)-Fort McMurray
Saskatchewan-Regina (Same as OTL)
Yukon-Dawson

Tell me what you think of this so far, and where it needs improvement. Think of this as something like an eye for an eye for an eye.
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